(thanks to my favorite Target Impish Dragon for helping me out with this graphing as well as my Parting Shot one)
Well it’s been 11 days since St Patrick’s Day and I’m feeling like me old self again with one exception. my previously epic hang over fueled/caused bad mood and attitude has not really improved all that much. Just ask Impish, he has silent, stoically and somewhat heroically suffered it since he had the misfortune to be taken in bad the writings of an obvious St Patrick’s Day hater talking out their bum about the true meaning and roots of the customs of the IRISH holiday the rest of you make so free with.
I’ve managed to get over that and apologized to Impish at some length for the more unkind of me remarks, but I’m still in a mood and on a tare. See basically, ever since St Patrick’s Day it seems someone has more or less been constantly relieving self on me trouser leg while looking me in the eye and assuring me that it was in fact fecking raining. That sort of thing bloody well gets me Y-fronts all in a bunch. If you’re going to have the stone to deliberately piss on my leg, have the stones and respect to admit you just did it to my face. Don’t then try and bloody well insult my fecking intelligence too otherwise I’m apt to consider you a Democrat, a liberal and bloody complete imbecilic moron or mistake you for Obama! This applies not only to politics, and people but to corporations, property management companies and churches as well!
Mean while as if all that isn’t enough, Impish is purportedly running around in Northern Texas someplace. There is even the threat of his possibly ending up landing on my doorstep at then end of the week. While it would mark the first time we have actually ever met face to face while simultaneously putting to rest once and for all the rumors that were are a single severely schizophrenic individual, I am concerned a bout my ability to keep some of our more militant red necked good ole boy yokels from shooting him keeping his head for a trophy mount and his hide for a next set of boots then Barbecuing or smoking ‘that weird azzed flyin’ gator critter’s remains’ for a fajitas party.
Ok enough of my ranting like a lunatic, lets be on with the festivities shall we?
Although my father has lived in America for almost 60 years, he’s never lost his Irish accent or fiery temperament. One cold, snowy winter day, he realized he had locked his car keys in the car. My mother went into a nearby store to see if she could get some help.
When she returned, my dad introduced her to a tall policeman from Ireland, who had unlocked the car door. After she thanked the policeman, he explained, “I couldn’t leave a fellow countryman in distress.”
“How did you know he was your countryman?” Mom asked.
“Well,” he replied, “I haven’t heard language like that since I left Ireland!”
In the course of the last week to ten days I think Molly has heard a WHOLE BUNCH of this sort of ting and NOT just in Gaelic! I am lingual swear proficient in about 6 languages including one dead one besides English and I suspect she might have at one point or another heard all 6 strung together in one long litany of frustration!
A Humorous Review of Apple’s “New iPad”
The Mother of All Ethic Jokes
At last an Equally Offending, Universally Politically Incorrect Joke has been achieved!
An Englishman, a Scotsman, an Irishman, a Welshman, a Latvian, a Turk, a German, an Indian, several Americans (including a southerner, a Texan, a New Englander and a Californian) , an Argentinean, a Dane, an Australian, a Slovakian, an Egyptian, a Japanese, a Moroccan, a Frenchman, a New Zealander, a Spaniard, a Russian, a Guatemalan, a Colombian, a Pakistani, a Malaysian, a Croatian, an Uzbek, a Cypriot, a Pole, a Lithuanian, a Chinese, a Sri Lankan, a Lebanese, a Cayman Islander, a Ugandan, a Vietnamese, a Korean, a Uruguayan, a Czech, an Icelander, a Mexican, a Finn, a Honduran, a Panamanian, an Andorran, an Israeli, a Venezuelan, a Fijian, a Peruvian, an Estonian, a Brazilian, a Portuguese, a Liechtensteiner, a Mongolian, a Hungarian, a Canadian, a Moldovan, a Haitian, a Norfolk Islander, a Macedonian, a Bolivian, a Cook Islander, a Tajikistani, a Samoan, an Armenian, an Aruban, an Albanian, a Greenlander, a Micronesian, a Virgin Islander, a Georgian, a Bahamian, a Belarusian, a Cuban, a Tongan, a Cambodian, a Qatari, an Azerbaijani, a Romanian, a Chilean, a Kyrgyzstani, a Jamaican, a Filipino, a Ukrainian, a Dutchman, an Ecuadorian, a Costa Rican, a Swede, a Bulgarian, a Serb, a Swiss, a Greek, a Belgian, a Singaporean, an Italian, a Norwegian and even a Saudi and 12 Africans walk into a fine restaurant with a duck, a dog a chicken, a Leprechaun and a Dragon in tow…
“I’m sorry,” says the maître d’ – scrutinizing the group one by one and barring their entrance – “you can’t come in here without a Thai.”
I’d love to see this Picture on every billboard in America and on television too!
MONEY AND POLITICS: An analysis by USA Today finds that only five people are behind 25 percent of all money flowing into “Super PACs” working to influence this year’s U.S. presidential election. One of those five is Sheldon Adelson of Las Vegas, Nev., the CEO of Sands, which owns the world’s largest casinos. “I’m against very wealthy people attempting to or influencing elections,” Adelson said. “But as long as it’s doable, I’m going to do it.” (RC/USA Today) …That gap is the difference
between stated belief and practiced ethics. The latter being something no politician today has any of owing to their surgical removal upon entry into politics at the Dog Catcher level.
WAL-MART vs. The Morons (in Federal Government)
1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart every hour of every day.
2.This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!
3.Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick’s Day (March 17th) than Target sells all year.
4.Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target + Sears + Costco + K-Mart combined..
5.Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people, is the world’s largest private employer, and most speak English.
6.Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the world.
7.Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and keep in mind they did this in only fifteen years.
8.During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy.
9.Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world.
10.Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 2,906 are Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago..
11.This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur at Wal-Mart stores. (Earth’s population is approximately 6.5 Billion.)
12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a Wal-Mart.
13. Wal-Mart has gross sales that total more than the total revenue of all the countries in the world, except 6 countries.
You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run Wal-Mart to fix the economy This should be read and understood by all Americans Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!!
To the President and all 535 voting members of the Legislature, both parties.
It is now official – you are ALL corrupt morons:
a..The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right and it is broke.
b..Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is broke.
c..Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right and it is broke.
d..War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to “the poor” and they only want more.
e..Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 44 years to get it right and they are broke.
f..Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to get it right and it is broke.
g..The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure.
In every “government service” you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax dollars. AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM ??
YOU THINK YOU CAN RUN THE AUTO INDUSTRY….. THE BANKING SYSTEM?????
MAYBE WE OUGHT TO KICK YOUR EGG-HEAD BUDDY BUMS OUT OF OFFICE AND HIRE WALMART TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT ??? WALMART SEEMS TO KNOW HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS…
WHY DON’T YOU GUYS JUST ADMIT IT’S WAY BEYOND YOUR PAY GRADE, AND QUIT?
Folks, keep this circulating. It is very well stated. Maybe it will end up in the e-mails of some of our “duly elected’ (they never read anything) and their staff will clue them in on how Americans feel.
“You can’t fix stupid, but you can vote it out.”
A healthy family is a happy family
Here’s a fun take on a tried-and-true favorite.
Here’s what you’ll need:
- 1 (2-lb) rotisserie chicken, skin removed, meat shredded
- 2 cups chunky salsa, divided
- 1/4 cup low-fat sour cream
- 3 (7 1/2-inch) whole-wheat tortillas
- 1 1/2 cups shredded cheddar
- 1 cup raw baby spinach
Let’s get started
- Preheat oven to 375
- Combine chicken, 1 cup salsa, and sour cream in a large bowl. Spread 1/2 cup salsa on bottom of a 9-inch deep-dish pie plate.
- Press 1 tortilla into pie plate; top with half the chicken mixture. Sprinkle with an even layer of cheese and half the spinach. Repeat, reserving about 1/4 cup cheese. Top with final tortilla; spread with remaining 1/2 cup salsa and sprinkle with reserved cheese.
- Cover with foil; bake 20 minutes. Remove foil and bake 5 more minutes, until cheese melts.
- To serve, slice into wedges.
Serves 4. Per serving: 460 cal, 26g carbs, 40g protein, 21g fat, 115mg chol, 1,380mg sodium, 4g fiber.
Works good with shredded Beef and Pork too. I’ve even done something similar with leftover Chili (substitute beans for spinach)
A Veterans tribute with just a deck of cards and a beautiful ending.
A Soldier’s Deck of Cards
After reading the headlines about the US soldier who shot up Afghanistan civilians, I couldn’t help noticing an irony. There is
all this clamor to try this guy quickly and execute him, never mind his having suffered a traumatic brain injury.
Yet this Major Hasan, who shot up Fort Hood while screaming Allah akbar, still hasn’t stood trial, and they are still debating whether he was insane, even with the clear evidence regarding his motive: slay as many infidels as possible.
So we have a guy in a war zone who cracks, and he must be executed immediately.
But this Muslim psychiatrist who was stateside in a nice safe office all day murders 13, wounds 29 of our own guys, and they try to
argue the poor lad suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome, from listening to real soldiers who had actual battle experience. Two and a half years later, they still haven’t tried the murderous bastard.
IMHO that makes the USA, the “Great Satan’ the “most merciful and compassionate”, NOT the followers or Imams of Allah!
Mood buttons for every occasion
We are big around DL/LL Enterprises on non verbal communication with regard to the mood of the top brass here. Our employees find it extremely helpful to know ahead of time when asking for a raise or being the barer of bad news is likely to cause a serious hit to their sick days. Here are a few of the better ones running around our offices.
No, I will NOT reveal which of these are Impish’s and which are mine. That would be WAY too easy a shot at Impish and I would never embarrass the big guy that way…Dragon tears stain like mad! I WILL say however several of those buttons in the above collection belong to Mrs. Dragon and to Molly as well as those belonging to Impish and myself.
Been quite a spell since I share any tips from me Pot o’ Gold with ye on how to save your own gold by finding things cheaper, for free or locations for decent money saving coupons. Well lets fix that right now with a whole bunch a tips.
Surprising Things You Can Get for Free
As much as I love the word, I have to admit it makes me suspicious. Just this week I won a “free” vacation, but the fine print says I need to send in a cashier’s check to claim my prize. Sadly, “free” is usually a sneaky way to clean out my wallet. Photo by: Comstock
But every now and then an exception comes along that’s truly free-no strings attached, no hidden agendas. Here are my favorites, and all you really need is an Internet connection to go online.
VistaPrint is an online printing company known for its amazing offer of 250 free business cards. They’re good-quality, too. Visit vistaprint.com, create your card and all you have to pay is about five bucks for shipping.
Why’s it free? VistaPrint would like you to join their 12 million customers who buy printing online, so they offer this enticement. Just know that once you get your business cards, you may hear from them a lot.
Expert computer help
If you’ve ever had a computer problem and wanted to pull out your hair in frustration, this is for you. Need to solve a hardware glitch? Want to learn how to use HTML? Submit your question at protonic.com and you’ll get a pretty prompt answer e-mailed to you from a volunteer expert.
Why’s it free? It’s no secret that many computer manufacturers provide mediocre support for their own products and charge good money for it. The folks at Protonic are tired of this sort of treatment, and believe it or not, their service is free because they enjoy helping people.
Want to learn the basics of practical spoken Spanish? Sign up (some classes are 12 weeks) and you’ll get weekly e-mails from a teacher with lessons and learning tips. You can also learn French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Greek, Mandarin Chinese and more. Go to bbc.co.uk/languages
Why’s it free? The BBC, one of the world’s largest broadcasting corporations, is on a mission to enrich people’s lives with programs and services that inform, educate and entertain.
Learn everything from how to write a business plan to how to finance your venture through the Small Business Administration’s website (sba.gov). Online courses are free and self-paced; they take about 30 minutes each to complete. Free in-person classes are also offered at SBA district offices and resource partners around the country.
Why’s it free? The SBA was created in conjunction with the government to help U.S. citizens learn how to become successful entrepreneurs. Support comes through financing of SBA loans.
If you haven’t done this already, do it now. Everyone is entitled to one credit report from each of the three major credit bureaus each year free of charge. Go to annualcreditreport.com and follow the directions. You will be offered many options for which you must pay, but stay on target for the free report. Caution: There are dozens of services on the Internet that pose as sources for free credit reports, but they really cost you money. Ignore them.
Why’s it free? It’s mandated by law, and this site is sponsored by the three major companies-Equifax, TransUnion and Experian.
Wi-Fi hot spots
Would you like to know which restaurants and coffee shops in your neighborhood offer free wireless Internet access? Get a directory at wififreespot.com.
Why’s it free? The company probably wants to build traffic to its site and derives financial support through advertising.
Create an up-to-the-minute to-do list complete with reminders via instant message or e-mail through RememberTheMilk.com. Upload Remember The Milk to your cell phone and you’ll always have your grocery list with you. And when someone at home adds to the list while you’re walking into the store, you’ll be sent an update.
Why’s it free? The majority of the site’s features are free, but a subscription ($25 for the year) gives you access to some additional premium features.
Online checking account
Hang on, this is huge. We’re not talking savings account, but an online checking account that is completely free, with no monthly fee attached. Electric Orange, through ING Direct (ingdirect.com ), is a paperless checking account (no checks or checkbook!) that pays you up to 3.4 percent interest on your balance (as of press time). You can do everything-deposit your paycheck, pay bills, send a paper or electronic check, transfer money-securely online. (Of course, you’ll pay a fee if you send paper checks, drop your overdraft line of credit balance below zero or require a stop payment.)
Why’s it free? ING is looking to add new customers. And because they use no paper and have no branches, costs are low.
The popular website Allrecipes.com, which features recipes from home cooks, now offers free downloadable cookbooks for many occasions (listed under “Tips & Advice”). The pictures are incredible and there are many to choose from. My favorite? Summer Picnics.
Why’s it free? This site derives its revenues through advertising and other sources, so members pay no fees.
Want arrangements of classical pieces for free download? MutopiaProject.org has 1,272 pieces available based on editions in the public domain, including works by Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Handel, Mozart and many others for piano, guitar, cello, voice and more.
Why’s it free? This is a labor of love by a team of volunteers who are involved in typesetting the music for electronic distribution. High-quality copies are available for a cost, but you’re not pressured to buy them.
Pandora.com is like your own personal radio service. You type in an artist, and the service plays songs by that artist and others with a similar style. You can’t download music, but you can listen and manage your own “stations.”
Why’s it free? The site offers a free ad-supported service as well as a paid option where you don’t see ads.
Gently used stuff
One person’s castoff is another person’s treasure at freecycle.org. By joining your local Freecycle chapter, you can get used furniture, household appliances and a variety of other items. Just know that those who take are also expected to give. However, no money is allowed to change hands.
Why’s it free? Freecycle is a grassroots, nonprofit movement of people committed to helping the environment by reusing goods and keeping stuff out of landfills.
Picasa (picasa.google.com) is a free software download from Google that helps you locate and organize all the photos on your computer. You can edit and add effects, share photos with others through e-mail, print them or upload them to the web. It’s fast and easy.
Why’s it free? Originally a pricey piece of software, Picasa was purchased by Google, then made free as an enhancement to the whole family of Google products.
If you’re tired of paying a fee each time you dial 411, here’s your alternative. Dial 800-FREE-411, then follow the prompts to get your desired number by phone or text message. Works for both residential and business listings throughout the U.S.
Why’s it free? This service is advertising-driven. You dial in, listen to a 10-second sponsored message, then proceed to get the number you need.
Finally, all the information you need in one place. Famundo.com is an online calendar, address book and message board. The site merges each individual’s schedule into one calendar, which you can access with a personal code from any computer. Very cool.
Why’s it free? The basic free version is ad-supported but not in an in-your-face way. Famundo wouldn’t be upset if you upgraded to the “Plus” version for about $10 a month, but it’s not required, nor will you be hounded.
Original article appeared on WomansDay.com.
Now before some bloody wise guy up and asks… NO I BLOODY WELL DO NOT read Woman’s Day except for when Molly buys it for the recipes because she thinks they sound good to her and then ONLY the recipes!). I saw the article on Yahoo and follow a link to a Yahoo Shine page full of tips.
Got a note from an apparently new reader this week who has evidentially been going thru the back issues archived on the blog site. They want to know…
The Keebler Cookie Monster
Dear Keebler Cookie Monster~
Don’t worry about your cookie supply, I may have evicted those elves from the tree house but I leased them Bilbo Baggun’s Hobbit hole (pictured here)
Up in the Texas Hill Country to make their cookies out of. They could more easily afford the space because the overhead on it is much lower <snicker>.
As far as the Keebler tree house, now known as Keebler Towers goes…
That ain’t no damp moss covered giant mushroom you’re looking at KCM! As to how I converted it into a high rise from what appeared to be a two story tree dwelling;
1.) Trees naturally grow and the representation you see of it in those commercials was done over 40 years ago as a set for filming those commercials.
2.) When you take into account the growth rate of trees in a magic forest exposed to magic being done everyday, is it nay wonder I had room to expand? (I also have to say that when it comes to fertilizer, fairy poop beats Miracle Grow & Bat guano hands down!)
3.) What you see in commercials is not reality. Keebler had already expanded to 3 adjacent trees and four levels in most of them before I foreclosed.
Thanks for writing in KCM and thanks for reading DL/LL!
It’s Illegal To Do That
February 27, 2012 by The Underground Conservative
John Stossel’s Illegal Everything is an insightful look at just how much our basic freedoms and liberties have been infringed upon by an out-of-control government.
Well-known horror stories like local authorities bullying children into shutting down lemonade stands and ceasing front-yard sales of Girl Scout cookies. criminal prosecution of individuals holding Bible studies in their homes and mind-numbing encounters with the bullies from the EPA. Yes, government bureaucrats terrorizing ordinary citizens because of endless federal regulations. One of the people Stossel interviewed was a man who spent six years in prison for breaking a Honduran regulation on packing lobsters.
Stossel is a well-known libertarian. One of the topics he tackles is the issue of legalization of drugs. He spent some time talking with individuals in Portugal about the effects of nationwide decriminalization of drugs. It’s an issue dear to the heart of most libertarians and one on which I have mixed emotions. While I believe Americans have the freedom to destroy their bodies in any manner they wish, when taxpayers are required to support and even enable that destruction, then that freedom stops. How so? Drug addicts have been granted access by well-meaning liberals to SSI and SSDI. Drug addicts have been determined to have a disability by federal bureaucrats and federal judges and have been granted protection by the Americans With Disabilities Act.
Once access to SSI and SSDI has been cut off — that’s my tax dollars, for those of you who graduated from Racine Unified — and ADA protection eliminated, you can poison your bodies all you want as long as I don’t have to pay for it. The same basic premise will dictate the government’s “right” to tell you what you are allowed to eat and drink, too, once ObamaCare kicks into full effect. Since the government is paying the bills, the government can dictate what you eat, what you drink, how you live. Just like Mommy and Daddy did when you were a child.
How’s that Nanny State that so many Americans love when it comes to someone else’s life working out for you again?
Employers asking for applicants Facebook username, password in interview process
Published: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 By The Associated Press
SEATTLE — When Justin Bassett interviewed for a new job, he expected the usual questions about experience and references. So he was astonished when the interviewer asked for something else: his Facebook username and password.
Bassett, a New York City statistician, had just finished answering a few character questions when the interviewer turned to her computer to search for his Facebook page. But she couldn’t see his private profile. She turned back and asked him to hand over his login information.
Bassett refused and withdrew his application, saying he didn’t want to work for a company that would seek such personal information. But as the job market steadily improves, other job candidates are confronting the same question from prospective employers, and some of them cannot afford to say no.
In their efforts to vet applicants, some companies and government agencies are going beyond merely glancing at a person’s social networking profiles and instead asking to log in as the user to have a look around.
“It’s akin to requiring someone’s house keys,” said Orin Kerr, a George Washington University law professor and former federal prosecutor who calls it “an egregious privacy violation.”
Questions have been raised about the legality of the practice, which is also the focus of proposed legislation in Illinois and Maryland that would forbid public agencies from asking for access to social networks.
Since the rise of social networking, it has become common for managers to review publically available Facebook profiles, Twitter accounts and other sites to learn more about job candidates. But many users, especially on Facebook, have their profiles set to private, making them available only to selected people or certain networks.
Companies that don’t ask for passwords have taken other steps — such as asking applicants to friend human resource managers or to log in to a company computer during an interview. Once employed, some workers have been required to sign nondisparagement agreements that ban them from talking negatively about an employer on social media.
Asking for a candidate’s password is more prevalent among public agencies, especially those seeking to fill law enforcement positions such as police officers or 911 dispatchers.
Back in 2010, Robert Collins was returning to his job as a security guard at the Maryland Department of Public Safety and Correctional Services after taking a leave following his mother’s death. During a reinstatement interview, he was asked for his login and password, purportedly so the agency could check for any gang affiliations. He was stunned by the request but complied.
“I needed my job to feed my family. I had to,” he recalled,
After the ACLU complained about the practice, the agency amended its policy, asking instead for job applicants to log in during interviews.
“To me, that’s still invasive. I can appreciate the desire to learn more about the applicant, but it’s still a violation of people’s personal privacy,” said Collins, whose case inspired Maryland’s legislation.
Until last year, the city of Bozeman, Mont., had a long-standing policy of asking job applicants for passwords to their email addresses, social-networking websites and other online accounts.
And since 2006, the McLean County, Ill., sheriff’s office has been one of several Illinois sheriff’s departments that ask applicants to sign into social media sites to be screened.
Chief Deputy Rusty Thomas defended the practice, saying applicants have a right to refuse. But no one has ever done so. Thomas said that “speaks well of the people we have apply.”
When asked what sort of material would jeopardize job prospects, Thomas said “it depends on the situation” but could include “inappropriate pictures or relationships with people who are underage, illegal behavior.”
In Spotsylvania County, Va., the sheriff’s department asks applicants to friend background investigators for jobs at the 911 dispatch center and for law enforcement positions.
“In the past, we’ve talked to friends and neighbors, but a lot of times we found that applicants interact more through social media sites than they do with real friends,” said Capt. Mike Harvey. “Their virtual friends will know more about them than a person living 30 yards away from them.”
Harvey said investigators look for any “derogatory” behavior that could damage the agency’s reputation.
E. Chandlee Bryan, a career coach and co-author of the book “The Twitter Job Search Guide,” said job seekers should always be aware of what’s on their social media sites and assume someone is going to look at it.
Bryan said she is troubled by companies asking for logins, but she feels it’s not violation if an employer asks to see a Facebook profile through a friend request. And she’s not troubled by non-disparagement agreements.
“I think that when you work for a company, they are essentially supporting you in exchange for your work. I think if you’re dissatisfied, you should go to them and not on a social media site,” she said.
More companies are also using third-party applications to scour Facebook profiles, Bryan said. One app called BeKnown can sometimes access personal profiles, short of wall messages, if a job seeker allows it.
Sears is one of the companies using apps. An applicant has the option of logging into the Sears job site through Facebook by allowing a third-party application to draw information from the profile, such as friend lists.
Sears Holdings Inc. spokeswoman Kim Freely said using a Facebook profile to apply allows Sears to be updated on the applicant’s work history.The company assumes “that people keep their social profiles updated to the minute, which allows us to consider them for other jobs in the future or for ones that they may not realize are available currently,” she said.
Giving out Facebook login information violates the social network’s terms of service. But those terms have no real legal weight, and experts say the legality of asking for such information remains murky.
The Department of Justice regards it as a federal crime to enter a social networking site in violation of the terms of service, but during recent congressional testimony, the agency said such violations would not be prosecuted.
But Lori Andrews, law professor at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law specializing in Internet privacy, is concerned about the pressure placed on applicants, even if they voluntarily provide access to social sites.
“Volunteering is coercion if you need a job,” Andrews said.
Neither Facebook nor Twitter responded to repeated requests for comment.
In New York, Bassett considered himself lucky that he was able to turn down the consulting gig at a lobbying firm.
“I think asking for account login credentials is regressive,” he said. “If you need to put food on the table for your three kids, you can’t afford to stand up for your belief.”
LOL where do I start on this one? Such fertile material and so little time, space and reader’s attention span!
1.) We need to punch this preverbal camel right in the nose with a horseshoe loaded boxing glove just as hard and fast as we can. IMHO this represents (aside from the obvious another unwarranted intrusion into your personal life) a giant step backwards in employer/employee relations. Unions have recently suffered HUGE set backs and concessions because of the recession and the resulting number of corporations looking for “give backs” to avoid bankruptcy or the need for a bailout. This is simply another manifestation of Corporations trying to set the clock back to the 1930s when they were at the peak of their power and control over their employees and their personal lives. I am reminded of employees living in company towns getting paid with company script and forced to shop in company stores. In effect the company you worked for under those conditions OWNED you and kept you in debt to them so you could not quit could not bitch about your hours and we’re permitted nothing the company did not want you to have or do.
What’s that I hear some one foolishly calling out?
But Lethal some of them only want me to sign in so they can see my page they are not asking for my password!
Ever hear of key loggers? Published estimates in business media of 75% of a company’s band width and 25% of total employee time being devoted to personal use of the Internet. Computer Security Institute (CSI) in San Francisco working with the FBI has done research on computer security and illegal behavior of workers and found out 90% of companies suffered from computer security breaches, and of the 45% of those that calculated the cost the total cost was estimated around $455,848. Among the most expensive part of the loss was related to financial fraud and stealing of intellectual properties. 80% of companies in the research suffered from financial loss in relation to their employees. Is it therefore any surprise that employee monitoring is a growth industry or that the FIRST thing employers ask about is key logging software? I should know I’m in the Cyber-Security business and I get as many calls about installing it as I do from angry employees wanting to know how to circumvent it!
Employee monitoring can be a invasion of privacy if it is not handled right. At the same time employee monitoring does not not have to invade the privacy of the employees, if it is done properly. However, the lines and leeway for invading the privacy of prospective or potential employees (the difference between the 2 is that prospective employees have been culled from the pool of potentials for a hard look as having met the baseline requirements for the job.) Now doing thorough investigations on prospective employees may be in some circumstance warranted but having access to the personal information of everyone who comes through the door? I think not!
Even the law recognizes (at least so far) that an employers right to monitor employees relates ONLY to an Employers computers and work done on them because it is in effect the property ( real and intellectual) of the employer. (For those interested you can get a pretty good idea of the law concerning this area here: http://www.staffmonitoring.com/P32/thelaw.htm)
1.a.) Let us assume hypothetically for a moment that you are not concerned or upset with this POSSIBLY employer asking for all this personal information ( you despicable closet liberal you!) and you give it to them but fail to obtain any employment with them. Does anyone know FOR SURE what happens to the records of those who don’t make the cut? I do, they go into storage “someplace” within the company for varying periods of time. Is that storage secure? Not really, it’s likely in some remote out of the way place in the facility. Are the people handling those records trustworthy? Just as trustworthy a minimum wage bottom rung of the ladder menial worker minions can be!
After the company determines the records are no longer needed what happens to them? Dumpster time! Are those records shredded or disposed of securely? Eh maybe then again maybe not. Securely disposing of records requires time and expense. At a minimum either someone has to run them thru a shredder by had or you have to rent one of those big jobs that will take a whole file box full in a single gulp for a day. Do you REALLY believe that a company that didn’t think enough of you to hire a year a go is going to give a second thought to protecting your personal info in an employment application when if something happens its unlikely you can prove they were responsible for the loss of that info? Yes your expressions of jaded doubt & arched eyebrows smirking in derision are exactly my point!
2.) Remember all my “preaching to the choir” about the liberals and their insidious intrusion via the schools that think they have a right to dictate your kids personal rights and behavior right down to interfering with and censoring their free speech AFTER school is out? See any parallels here? IF the schools do not (or at least SHOULD not have the right to monitor your child’s off campus after hours behavior, why should corporations have the right to monitor yours?
As a minor aside point, this has been going on for so long now that those first subjected to this sort of intrusion have been brainwashed into believing there is nothing wrong with this sort of over the top behavior and graduated into the workforce. We are in effect reaping the benefits of that weed of intrusion which we did not object to being sown at the time.
In both situations the issue of disparaging remarks is often touted as a key issue claiming they are simply trying to defend against damage to their reputations. How conveniently that shield is to hide behind when things SHOULD be coming out! The question regarding the VALIDITY of the disparaging remarks is never asked you are simply wrong, automatically guilty and subjected to their will for having made it in the first place! I am reminded of something an Insurance Argent told me a long time ago, I had something of a show car when I was deployed it spent most of its time in a storage facility. At their recommendation I looked into theft and vandalism insurance which was prohibitively high. When I asked why it was so high I was told that the industries experience was that the only people who wanted such insurance were the ones that expected to need it and therefore the risk was so much greater hence the excessive pricing. If you ask me the same logic applies to Corporations seeking the right to monitor( by friending an HR employee, by requiring your Facebook page to be and remain public as a condition of your employment or by requiring you to sign a Non-disparage Agreement, namely that only them that figure they are going to have reason or know damned right well they are intent on less than ethical treatment of employees would be the one requiring these things in the absence of any other compelling reason
3.) This is but one of several reasons I avoid the entire social networking thing like an envelope suspected of containing an unidentified white powder or any container, packaging with the biohazard symbol on it or talking to liberals. The potential for disaster is just too damned great. Play a gain get a nasty nearly impossible to remove Trojan virus for your troubles. Laugh at a politically incorrect joke someone else posts on your wall there by offending some faceless HR drone at a potential employer, loser the job opportunity. Hell it doesn’t even have to be YOUR doing! Some one post a 25 year old spring break picture on their facebook page or the page say of your class reunion which is linked to yours and that bored HR drone decides to “get a sense of what you are like” by the company you keep and BANG! you’re screwed out of that job yet again!
4.) Finally on a slightly off tangent but still related point this sort of situation is exactly why I recommend you maintain at least 2 of everything, 2 e-mail addresses, 2 social networking accounts (if you absolutely MUST join in the Internet equivalent of the CB fad), 2 IM names, etc. YOU keep one strictly and virtuously professional and impeccable under as generic and vague a form of your real name as possible ( to help protect you from identity theft and embarrassment) and you use the other one the one with the made up screen name (what? You thought Lethal Leprechaun, a.k.a. S. Phibber McGee was my REAL name?) for your everyday mucking about with friends family etc. When you do this you absolutely do not post photos to publically accessible accounts! Personally I would prefer my clients did not even post them on private accounts however if they feel strongly about it private password protected and permission to see are absolute musts.
This way when liberal schooled privacy invading HR drones demand your accounts and their locations you can give them the clean ones that are directly linked to your name and publically accessible (Likely they will have already done a search under your name before hand and know there is an account- a another test to see if you are truthful or think you have something to hide, would prefer they don’t know about or outright think is none of their business (not an attitude compatible with Big Brother Business’s Big Camel Nose in your life.) Then if they ask you if there are any other accounts “under your name” you can look them in the eye and answer truthfully and legally “I am unaware of any other accounts under my name.” You answer the exact same way if they ask you “do you have any other accounts?”
As long as you have kept both sets of accounts religiously and scrupulously separate and the screen name account PRIVATE not public you should be safe, good to go and legally protected. Let your lawyer argue letter of the question and its answer versus spirit of the question if it ever gets to that, it’s what they are for and good at.
In closing I think the BEST attitude and way of handling this situation head on was expressed by my friend Bob A. who hails from as he calls it “the Seattle Rust and Moss Farming Belt” who is an occasional reader of our fine blog (poor SOB lives so far out in the boonies that he cannot get cable or DSL and has to make due with Dial UP being short of coin to afford the satellite based alternatives). We were discussing this subject as a result of his asking if I had a Facebook page as I was writing this Parting Shot and his retort when I informed him of this relatively recent privacy invasion development was:
I’d tell them sure you can have mine..just as soon as you, your Department head the person I’ll be ultimately be working for and the owner of this company give me your personal passwords in exchange. If there is nothing wrong with you people invading my privacy and going thru my files then the same view should hold true for me going through yours. Wadda ya say? You folks show me your privates [social networking accounts] and I’ll show you mine. Otherwise lets forget you exhibited the unprofessionalism and bad taste to attempt such a blatant invasion of my personal privacy and move on shall we?
That’s a pretty damned good solution if you are in a position to walk away from the interview without worrying about the possibility of having deliberately thrown away a potential job to stand up for your principles and a darn hard act to follow up on so I’m not even about to try.
ROFL ok so I was apparently wrong about that. No sooner had I finished tweaking the issue and uploading it to the blog for auto posting (my goal each week is to have the next issue uploaded and ready no later than the Sunday before by 8 PM) than the following article rolled across my other screen. While its nice to have my position some what vindicated and championed, couldn’t they have done it earlier for easy inclusion?? DEADLINES gentlemen! We writers live and die by them!
New York senator joins Blumenthal in asking feds to investigate employer requests for Facebook passwords
Published: Sunday, March 25, 2012 By The Associated Press
SEATTLE — Two U.S. senators are asking Attorney General Eric Holder to investigate whether employers asking for Facebook passwords during job interviews are violating federal law, their offices announced Sunday.
Troubled by reports of the practice, Democratic Sens. Chuck Schumer of New York and Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut said they are calling on the Department of Justice and the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to launch investigations. The senators are sending letters to the heads of the agencies.
The Associated Press reported last week that some private and public agencies around the country are asking job seekers for their social media credentials. The practice has alarmed privacy advocates, but the legality of it remains murky.
On Friday, Facebook warned employers not to ask job applicants for their passwords to the site so they can poke around on their profiles. The company threatened legal action against applications that violate its long-standing policy against sharing passwords.
A Facebook executive cautioned that if an employer discovers that a job applicant is a member of a protected group, the employer may be vulnerable to claims of discrimination if it doesn’t hire that person.
Personal information such as gender, race, religion and age are often displayed on a Facebook profile — all details that are protected by federal employment law.
“We don’t think employers should be asking prospective employees to provide their passwords because we don’t think it’s the right thing to do. While we do not have any immediate plans to take legal action against any specific employers, we look forward to engaging with policy makers and other stakeholders, to help better safeguard the privacy of our users,” Facebook said in a statement.
Not sharing passwords is a basic tenet of online conduct. Aside from the privacy concerns, Facebook considers the practice a security risk.
“In an age where more and more of our personal information — and our private social interactions — are online, it is vital that all individuals be allowed to determine for themselves what personal information they want to make public and protect personal information from their would-be employers. This is especially important during the job-seeking process, when all the power is on one side of the fence,” Schumer said in a statement.
Specifically, the senators want to know if this practice violates the Stored Communications Act or the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. Those two acts, respectively, prohibit intentional access to electronic information without authorization and intentional access to a computer without authorization to obtain information.
The senators also want to know whether two court cases relating to supervisors asking current employees for social media credentials could be applied to job applicants.
“I think it’s going to take some years for courts to decide whether Americans in the digital age have the same privacy rights” as previous generations, American Civil Liberties Union attorney Catherine Crump said in a previous interview with the AP.
The senators also said they are drafting a bill to fill in any gaps that current laws don’t cover.
Maryland and Illinois are considering bills that would bar public agencies for asking for this information.
In California, Democratic Sen. Leland Yee introduced a bill that would prohibit employers from asking current employees or job applicants for their social media user names or passwords. That state measure also would bar employers from requiring access to employees’ and applicants’ social media content, to prevent employers from requiring logins or printouts of that content for their review.
WELL! Two DEMOCRATIC U.S. Senators plus a state senator from arguably the most liberal of the fifty states all thinking like me! That tells me I must be spot on target with my view on this privacy infringement. The only two things that worry me now are if Obama’s minion and flunky Holder will do the right thing or rule again in favor of Big Brother and the Nanny State. From where I sit its a coin toss. The Obama Administration despite the bailouts is NOT considered a friend of big business but IS in favor of being as intrusive in your life as it can possibly be.
That was the first thing, the second thing that worries me is having these 3 liberal Democrats agree with my position. It’s a little like that old saw about 1 in 4 people being crazy. Look at 3 of your closest friends, if they are not crazy, you must be. My concern is, does them thinking like me make them Common Sense Centrists or me a closet liberal? Come to think of it why is it the DEMOCRATS that are raising a stink about the invasion of personal privacy? Where are the Republicans and why are they silent on this issue? Damn! Now I am REALLY worried!
Until next we meet….
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